Under The Iceberg

 

 

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Most companies spend a lot of time in the hiring process focused on job skills even the job descriptions don’t focus on the life skills of a person.  So what we hire people on is there job skill and what most people get fired on is their life skills.  If everyone in your office were in a good mood and positive, working on self improvement what would your office be like?  

 

If you think about it most or our problems with supervisors or staff are because of what we call attitude.  Not knowing how to deal effectively with others, not managing their emotions, not knowing how to communicate with others and not listening to others.  These are the real problems in the office.  A good number of people can learn most of our jobs.  It is important that we have competent people but they are mostly defined in terms of job skills.  How often have you heard “They know their job but they are a pain to get along with.  With a statement like that I don’t think that the person whose reputation is like that should be allowed to continue in the job.  I believe that we need to define what are acceptable life skills and what are not acceptable. (Yelling or speaking harshly to a fellow employee)  Most job reviews do not emphasize the life skills or plays well in the play ground. Life skills should be equal to job skills.  What are your thoughts on this and what kinds of training does your organization give to help improve your life skills?  Also are life skills defined and evaluated in your organization?  Is there much emphasis on life skills in clients training?

 

 

Responses:

 

In our organization we place lots of emphasis on life skills or what some call "soft skills." We teach honesty and the importance of telling the truth on applications. If you have left a job for less than favorable reasons, we instruct our customers to be able to tell an employer the circumstances that led to you leaving the job, that you accept responsibility for what happened and are ready to move on to the next opportunity in your career.

 

We teach the importance of making a good impression. This is accomplished by dressing properly, maintaining good posture, smiling, good eye contact, a firm, full-grip handshake, remembering names and by showing enthusiasm and confidence.

 

I teach my students that communication is mostly (one study found 95%) how we say something rather than what we say. That is, we should pay more attention to how we communicate because our body language (posture, facial expressions, hand gestures, eye contact or lack thereof) says more of what we mean than the actual words we say. This is reflective of what we call attitude. It is a generally known fact that attitude determines outcome.

 

The overall tenor of our workshops is learning about one's self. This includes deciding on a job objective, learning ones likes and dislikes, discovering your gifts and talents, and determining how hobbies, past times, and leisure activities might influence your career. This also includes becoming aware of one's achievements, awards, and accomplishments.

 

There is also emphasis placed on sending thank you notes after interviews, thanking employers after interviews, networking and getting used to talking to others about yourself.

 

These are most of the services we offer as well as coaching and offering encouragement on an individual basis. I feel the acquisition of these types of skills helps our clients get jobs and equally as

important: it helps them keep jobs!

 

DLM Stockton

 

 

Our program focuses on many life skills with our students. During the student's orientation period they complete training in understanding their learning style, setting goals, and learning professional etiquette. On Friday afternoons we present workshops on various subjects; most of which are other life skills. Also, we have outside speakers from both on and off campus come in to present workshops. The topics we have covered include self-esteem, parenting skills, nutrition, communication skills, resume writing and interviewing skills, conflict resolution, stress reduction, money management, dressing professionally, and dealing with change.
I think the most important life skill that we teach here is self-esteem. Most of our students severely lack self-esteem and, though we can't give them self-esteem, we can help them learn how to acquire it for themselves.
I always look forward to your emails. Have a great week.
Sincerely,

David Chissoe, M.Ed., LPC

 

I reviewed the info on life skills and find that there is a bigger need for the training across the board.  Although there are trainings on this in the agency (i.e. office procedures, client relationships and staff development) it still remains an issue.  Professionalism is emphasized both in and out of the office; however, sometimes people take it for granted.  For instance, a simple act of common courtesy toward a fellow employee can take an act of Congress.  I know that that is being facetious but that's the way it seems.  Simple respect for self and others is an issue I often see within clients and coworkers also.  As for the evaluation - there are some basic questions related to the how we treat one another on the job and work with clients, hence, the standard categorical  responses which may or may not reflect the true character of the person.  Periodic awareness reviews for those noted to not use life skills effectively may be the answer to improving them. Ricky G

My mission in life is to help people live up to their highest potential, seeing and empowering that still, small spark in people most others have given up on.  

 

Due to budget cuts, the County of Ventura laid off 85 people from the Human Services Agency alone and June 30 is my last day in my position with the Veterans Workforce Investment Program, where for almost three years I've served as an Account Executive/Employment. 

 

Since residing in California, I've acted mostly as a consultant and fundraiser to homeless and mental health organizations and for three years was an Employment Specialist/Sales Manager at a vocational services agency for people with developmental, physical and mental disabilities.

 

I have lots of experience in the area of homelessness you are making a difference in the Keys.  I organized town meetings on hunger and homelessness, coordinated and designed life skills courses, worked at and started homeless shelters doing intake, services provision, case management, job development and referral in Fort Collins, Colorado back in the late '80's - early '90's. 

 

I helped found a Comprehensive Homeless Assistance Team (CHAT) with the Larimer County Human Development Department and area agencies and organized a 200-person Wyoming-Colorado Housing Conference with the public and private sector.  I helped found and managed a day shelter funded by the McKinney Act for the Homeless. 

 

Just prior to moving to California in 1994, I wrote the first homeless literacy grant funded through the McKinney Act and the Colorado Department of Education, and got it.  I also performed strategic planning-in-action.  I created and

facilitated a visioning and organizational planning session with homeless agencies.  I also started a weekly seminar series evenings that provided personal growth and employment training to that population at a homeless men's shelter, which got lots of community involvement and support, including mentoring by area retirees/senior citizens. 

 

We also started a client-run job bank that matched employers' needs with potential employees' skills, interests 

and abilities.  This may sound "normal" to you, however, another agency I had worked with previously was using a lottery system that truly didn't serve anyone's highest good.  If the client picked number "1", no matter what job came in, whether he was qualified for, interested in, experienced or fit to do it, they had to take the work.  That obviously often made for extremely mismatched, frustrated, dissatisfied employers and workers, with high turnover and low retention of both.  After several conversations with the director of the agency who refused to change the process, I left my position and moved on.  Of course, that other agency finally changed their lottery process when they saw how successful our new program was and the transformation taking place in the homeless population and community!

 

When I leave this job next week, I've decided to be self-employed.  I am starting my own consulting company, Business & Organization Support Services (B.O.S.S.) that encourages and ongoing training of individuals in business practices, self reliance and entrepreneurship to build a sustainable economy.  Surprisingly, it is already turning into a much bigger national and global venture. 

 

One of my old employers, a cosmetic manufacturer who I helped develop a product line with and doubled his sales annually four consecutive years as his Sales Manager, has already contracted my services.  I am already helping train people in sales and marketing locally, and am writing the copy for another new product line.  He is also an investor in a Thai incubator company I will also be assisting in various development phases.   

 

Other work I already have acquired:

*An artist who needs a distributor for her art

*An  environmental firm specializing in growing and distributing insects as an alternative to pesticides

* An expanding three-county magazine who needs local advertising sales, distribution and a local reporter.       

 

Well, I have some ideas on how I might help you and your organization as well.  I own some land in northeast Florida, southwest of Jacksonville, and am planning to come see it within the next few months.  While there, I am also doing several sales deals with our products in the southern Florida area and would love to come to Key West and help build the economy there.  From seeing your newsletter, it looks as though we have much in common and may benefit one another. RS CA


Under the Iceberg is great. Very true w/ clients. Will also show to my two teenaged sons. Frustration control and anger management are hard to do but really the  ticket to success in life.

 

Pat

 

On the surface, yes, my agency supports life skills improvement by encouraging us to attend seminars.  However, I think the problem is that, because we're a govt. agency, the Management sees us in terms of performance statistics at all times, since our annual Congressional funding depends upon it.  They don't care how ill-tempered you are as long as you produce results that don't interfere with our funding.  So, I want to think about your question a bit longer before answering it.  Josette 

 

 

Paul, your article on life skills and their importance in the work place really struck home.  I just recently let a person go from our agency because of both job skills and life skills.  It was my opinion that we could have over come the job skills problems but it was the life skills part that really over shadowed the problems that this person caused in the work place.  We did try working with this person one-on-one to correct the problems but they kept going back to their old habits and problems.  So I believe that the biggest problem here is getting the employee to want to improve their life skills not teaching them.  They have to want to change or any amount of training becomes useless.  Life skills is a very important part of what people do in a social agency such as ours.  This also important for our clients along with their ability to make choices, but the ability to make good choices is also a life skill.

 

Thanks for the article.

David

 

I have had the pleasure of working for a company where all the employees were working on life skills and the company was directed by life skills.  During the mid 70's I worked for a sole proprietor with 25 employees who was introduced to Life Spring.  While there are negative cases to be made for the principals of Life Spring and Warner Earhart Training, the process of getting in touch with and evaluating life skills has enriched my life.

        The closest I get to introducing life skills to my clients is through the subject of "Transferable Skills."  This subject gets some unemployed individuals thinking about aspects of their lives that they have never considered. 

        The CalWorks Program, welfare to work, does stress life skills because many of the participants lack them both in a work environment and a life environment.

        High School and College is where I firmly believe the topic of life skills should be taught.  Many college graduates lack understanding of these skills and wonder why it is so hard for them to find work.

        Anyway, these are my thoughts about Life Skills.

  • Robert Fowler

 

Some of the life/success skills training we assist with are:

Problem-solving

Anger management

Conflict Resolution

Communication skills

Time management

Healthy lifestyles

Financial management

Job seeking skills

Job retention skills

Other topics are addressed as needs are identified.

 

Bonnie WI

 

 

Thru my job as a case manager I have had case management training through UC Davis and this was great.  It taught that you have to be a good listener and to repeat what you understand you hear from your client.  This is the way the client knows you are listening to their needs.

 

Empathy goes a long way. Clients don't want you to sympathize or pity them they want you to be honest but not be cruel.  Motivate them with positive stories of clients that have situations similar that rose above and beyond the challenge and succeed.  They can succeed if they have a role model that has gone before them.

 

Our organization has sent us to a poverty class which was given by Dr. Ruby Payne which gave insight how people in poverty thing and their survival is total different than middle class America and as most think in middle class terms you have to rethink to poverty class to assist their needs.  This was another great tool to use.

 

Life itself teaches each person skills to cope with people around you so you can manage each situation differently. Age and maturity can assist with this, schooling and career opportunities can give us other tools to use to assist our clients.

 

I hope I have assisted in giving some insight into how I handle my clients in case management.  I have a great client base. I have sometimes up to 300 clients and I usually can tell you something about each of them.  I now have a reduce load of 150 and this is even better so I even know the children names of most of the clients.

 

Have a great day!

 

Dottie Pridmore CA

 

Wow you hit the nail right on the head.  It amazes me how people with really poor life skills keep their jobs and even get promoted.  I really do agree that job sites could benefit from helping employees learn life skills.  A really successful class (which I teach, by the way) is learning about the 4 personality types and how to communicate across those types.  Also, culture, gender and family rules impact life skills.  If you are a hot blooded Italian that grew up in a passionate family, you may come across too aggressive to co-workers.  On the other hand they will never have to guess where you are coming from.  Learning to understand and value different personalities is a big key to workplace harmony.

 

As far as teaching clients life skills.  I believe modeling is a real key here. We like to place some hard to serve clients in Job Sampling positions within our agency.  They learn work skills and are held accountable to change negative patterns that impact their employability.

I think we are looking at life skills as an important element for success, but we are a long way from having a plan to implement improving those skills across the board.  I will share your thoughts with others and challenge them to think about developing some internal and external life skills training.  Loretta Spalding AK

 

 

I agree that life skills are often overlooked by employers yet it is the number one reason people lose their jobs.  In our program we teach job search classes to help our participants learn how to look for work.  But we also include several classes on a regular basis that cover life skill topics, such as attitude, self esteem, problem solving, and time management.  There are many other life skill topics that we discuss.  We hope that the information we provide will help our participants with job retention.  And although some of our participants come to our program without the valuable life skills that are required to maintain a job, some of the blame for low job retention is on the employer.  I think that employers assume that people come to them already possessing life skills, since they are  things that most people are taught throughout there lives in all areas of their lives.  For example, it could be thought that time management is learned from attending years of school before a person is 18.  So employers see an applicant and make the leap that they are a person with life skills.  As a result, their emphasis is placed on the question, "Can they do the job?".  Those are the skills that are obtained later in life, may require experience to do well, and that not every person possesses.  I also think that employers would have better job retention, not only if they looked for life skills in the hiring process, but also helped to develop those skills on the job.  On-the-job-training should mean more than teaching an employee the mechanics of certain tasks.  For example, if timeliness is an issue, supervisors and managers should take more of a mentoring role with employees.  They could discuss why being late affects the company and include ways to manage time or ways to manage the small crisis that seem to make a person late, rather than instantly "writing them up".  Employers want to hire a "finished" person, someone who has developed and mastered all skills.  That person doesn't exist, yet they expect employees to be that person.  A little more understanding, flexibility and a view that they are setting an example for their still learning employees to follow would aid in job retention.  I think that often employers are too rigid with little acceptance of the human flaws we all possess.  So, although job seekers and employees need to be trained in life skills, employers also need to be trained in developing good life skills in their employees.

 

Miriam Dance  ID

Work First Consultant

 

 

What a timely subject.  I think you are right on about the lack of life skills in the work place.  My agency does the "head in the sand" routine.  Because of our unwillingness to confront wrong behavior/attitudes there is never a forum or outlet for discussing frustrations so they just continue to boil under the surface.  Very frustrating.  Since we don't admit there are difficulties there is little or no "training" per se.  The agency also feels that since we have such tight budgets, that all work hours should be devoted to serving clients and not in personal development sessions.  Another frustration.  In this "do more with less" environment we have all been forced into, it becomes even more crucial everyone works well together. SM

 

 

My organization teaches conflict classes.  I believe is a good thing.  We teach people what is expected of them in the job place and what you should do if you experience conflict in your workplace.  The problem is, we are not practicing what we are preaching.  We have some people in our office who treat co-workers with disrespect on a regular basis.  There is no doubt that they know their jobs and do them well, but they are continually condescending and disrespectful, even after repeatedly being told that their behavior is inappropriate.  I agree with you that people should be dismissed if they continually have an "attitude" and can't deal with co-workers/clients in a respectful, appropriate manner.  There is just no excuse for some of the behavior I have witnessed.....no one is that good!!  A.

 

 

Life skills, hadn't heard that term since I was a corporate trainer for IBM.  We had a 3 hr or so lecture on Life Skills in our advanced marketing school.  As I recall it was always well received.

Since then nothing.  Where I am at right now me and one other person know what the techniques are.  What is management doing as far as training is concerned?  Nothing, even though the other person that knows what the concept is runs the place.

 

 

OH MY GOODNESS! I would much rather work with the life skills people than the job skills people!  You can definitely teach job skills to someone already proficient in life skills - but it rarely works in reverse....  The most challenging persons I have ever worked with don't even realize that they have life skill deficiencies - because they are so caught up in their job skill accomplishments that they believe that is all that matters.  Unfortunately I work for a state agency - and it is nearly impossible to fire someone for lack of life skills - for that matter - it is nearly impossible to fire them even for lack of job skills!  I am not certain that  our agency spends enough (or any) time developing staff's life skills. We tried that once - in a training program designed to improve our customer interaction and satisfaction and our ability to move them through to self sufficiency - and most staff didn't believe that they needed to waste their time on that "touchy feely" stuff.  I wish staff had taken it to heart - because now with increased job stress and increased workloads - it is the life skills that would get them through the tough times - not the job skills.

 AB - Illinois

 

"The quality of our expectations determines the quality of our actions."

  Andre' Godin

 

After having spent nearly two decades as a human resource professional in educational and social service organizations, I can testify to how often we discipline or terminate employees because of their lack of life skills.  I’m currently with a state welfare office and many of our discussions for preparing clients for work center around life skills.  We have many clients who can get a job, but they are unable to keep it over time.  Convincing them that calling into to work when you’re going to be absent is nearly as important as showing up, is one of those lessons rooted in life skills training (responsibility).  We are currently negotiating with our partners to have our clients attend a mandatory life skills training module before beginning to search for jobs.

 

Our employee evaluation guidelines, policies and performance expectations do emphasize life skills, but because it is more difficult for supervisors and managers to qualify, quantify or explain, issues are usually addressed only when they’ve become a huge problem.  I have always explained to applicants, employees looking for promotion and especially my children and their friends (who are relatively new to the workforce) that employers prefer to hire someone with less technical skills and more life skills than someone who has excellent technical skills but is impossible to work with.  I believe that this needs to be made clear beginning with the recruitment announcement, evaluated in the hiring process, and evaluated along with technical skills throughout an employee’s work life.

 

WA

 

Life skills are almost equal to the same importance as job competency.  We do need to be somewhat competent in what we are doing but I can forgive someone far easier for not doing something correctly than for being a jerk to work with.  I think because we, by nature of what we do, are compassionate to begin with,   we tend to accept that mistakes are made but cannot accept rude behavior because we ourselves are not rude.  I tried getting a workshop off the ground called Job Etiquette, talking about what to do the first few weeks on the job and how not to alienate your co-workers.  I feel it is very important, but it didn't go over well, then we haven't had much luck with workshops in general here. 

 

In our own offices, which are government agencies, people don't get fired that easily.  Some should that's for sure, but they are the ones at the top for the most part that do the hiring and firing.  They are the ones that do not see their own bad behavior to begin with, and only see it in others.  It is kind of a Ying and yang isn't it?  Can't really teach something that your own office doesn't practice. 

 

Charlene

 

 

I totally agree that Life Skills is the missing link. It is beyond me, why employers don't include this type of training when they hire employees. One of the classes we taught at EAL and that I still do in my contract training is based on Dr. Tony Allesandra's "Platinum Rule" concept of the 4 Behavioral Styles. It is the best training I've ever used, to teach people "why we act the way we act, when we act the way we act." It not only teaches you what your own behavioral style is, but that of others, as well and how you can (and must) be able to "flex" to these other styles.

 

In my experience in working with clients on assistance, who were looking for jobs; most of whom had been fired from jobs because they couldn't get along with their supervisors/co-workers, this was the one element missing from everything we tried to teach them about getting a job.

 

Oh, well...I know I'm "preaching to the choir," but those are my thoughts on this subject.

 

Elly

 

I must concur with your life skills comments.  Because I work with high school and college students I have seen numerous situations that produce less than positive outcomes based on the client's attitude.  I am amazed at the number of clients that live with a sense of "entitlement" and disregard the need for good work ethics/habits.  I am not sure of the source of such attitudes. 

 

Many teens feel that employers will seek them out and pay them unrealistic salaries.  I have several clients who have graduated from college who refuse to accept a job with the salary being less than what they expected.  Trying to reason with them that they need to gain work experience and know that the higher salary will come later is often a futile conversation.  But what I have often discovered in some of these cases is that the parents are willing to continue to support the student so there is no pressure on the client to find employment.  So much for delayed gratification!

 

Sadly, State Employees are treated poorly with rare positive feedback.  I would like to share, however, that I used your suggestion of voicing my needs to my immediate supervisor.  While going over my annual review, I shared with him that while I greatly enjoyed your training,  I felt that middle and upper management were the work group that most needed the training.  I find that my clients energize me (for the most part), but the constant negative stance of the agency is what propels me toward burnout.  I am often dismayed at the attitude of fellow counselors who have adopted the mentality of doing "just enough"

so that they will not be fired.  Coming from a customer driven background I am surprised at the "lip service" that the topic of customer service is given for state employees.  While the private business learned years ago that the best way to have happy customers was to start with happy employees; the government seems to have missed that basic management class lesson.  I have however seen a slightly difference in my immediate supervisor.  After sharing with him that the primary reason I would leave the agency was due to the negativity, he seems to be making an effort to be more positive.  I think that he understands (at least for me) that the way to motivate me is to give positive feedback.

 I am willing to work harder and longer for a manager that appears to appreciate my efforts and successes.  Feeling unappreciated and having errors become the focus of all conversations dampens my spirit - fear of losing my job is not a motivator for me.  Comments?

 

Take care and let me know if a counselors position is available in the Keys.

 

KF /NC

 

How right you are!!  The life skills of fellow workers really make the difference between a great place to work and job you dread like the plague.

 

I will say that just as I said "all the nice in the world won't make up for not knowing your job" when it comes to customer service from the customer's point of view, great life skills fall short if you do not also do your job adequately from the co-worker's point of view, but don't we all know someone who knows the job and doesn't know a thing about being a decent human being?

 

Our agency does little to nothing about training in life skills.  But the right attitude and priorities--treating people (co-workers and

customers) with dignity and respect, etc.-- have always been the emphasis and have obviously guided the hiring process around this local office.  We are fortunate.  My husband spent 15 miserable years at a job he would have found pleasant enough except for the woeful life skills of one fellow worker.

 

Our job evaluations do contain an element called "dimensions" which is actually life skills.  "Key behaviors which describe how  work is to be done".  "Service orientation, collaboration, adaptability, performance stability, customer service".  So we are evaluated on these very importatant factors, however, since there is no reward in the state's actual pay system  for doing a job well (everybody who isn't getting fired gets exactly the same raise), whether we are talking about job skills or life skills, there is no motivation for anyone to improve in this area unless they just value this of themselves.  Once again, we are fortunate in this office that our manager is attracted to candidates who exhibit a personal desire for self improvement.  

Have a great day! Mason

 

In working with older workers we often find that they have the Life Skills, it's the job skills they lack.  We provide them with job skills and refer them to openings, but often find that employers are not interested in hearing about Life Skills.  Sometimes even noting them sounds more like you are referring to a pet rather than a person.  I would be interested in hearing how others effectively weave in the Life Skills.

 

Polly Windels

 

I think a lot of people are getting burned out because the programs that used to be about the people, especially the older people, are not about the people.  It was really good to help people that needed help, but now the money situation has made it really hard to put the help where it needs to go.

 

I know in our program, we are just trying to do the best we can for our people and try to not let it stress us out.  That is about all we can do.

 

I will be looking forward to hearing from you again.

 

M O 

 

As far as life skills go, our agency does not address life skills for employee's or customers.  I truly agree that life skills should be a major focus for staff and clients alike.  When you have so many different people, from different backgrounds coming together, it would help everyone to have a better understanding of where the others come from.  Since our agency does not have anything in place, I can't wait to read the ways that other agencies deal with this issue.  California Girl......